I heard on Marketplace tonight that Mark Zuckerberg owns 58% of the voting rights in Facebook (not a majority of the shares, but he owns many Class B shares, which have 10 votes apiece compared to 1 vote for Class A shares).

I've read that situations like this are not uncommon. 20% of public companies have dual-class share structures with different amounts of voting rights, and company insiders get the ones with more rights. I'm not sure how often it amounts to a single investor like Zuckerberg, though.

Why does the government and/or SEC allow a single investor to own a controlling interest in the company? Doesn't it make the whole idea of shareholder voting a sham? From Vox.com regarding today's Facebook shareholder meeting:

Multiple proposals that would have put a check on the 35-year-old executive’s influence at Facebook were voted down at the company’s annual stockholder meeting on Thursday. They didn’t really have a chance in the first place: Facebook’s board had recommended shareholders vote against all of them, and because of the way the social media giant’s shareholder structure is set up, Zuckerberg’s vote is essentially the only one that matters.

And of course he’s not going to vote to take power away from himself.

The people submitting these proposals know that they're doomed, so these are obviously just symbolic gestures. The votes for these proposals only serve as a kind of straw poll that the management might take note of, they have no real meaning.

Why even bother having shareholder voting in this case, when the result is a foregone conclusion? If the company wants to make the CEO a dictator, they could just make all public shares non-voting, couldn't they?

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    Why should the government and/or SEC seek to restrict company ownership? Don't like the company structure, don't own the company.
    – quid
    May 31, 2019 at 0:01
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    @Barmar ask yourself this question again once you work hard to form a company and own the majority of the votes.
    – RonJohn
    May 31, 2019 at 0:11
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    @Barmar no it shouldn't. Carl Icahn owns a majority of IEP. Buffett I believe owns a controlling stake of BRK. Do you really think the SEC should tell the Buff-man to liquidate some holdings because ti's not fair that he owns a controlling stake? That is a garbage article subtly crying about capitalism through Facebook's structure as though we don't have legislative and judicial branches capable of writing and enforcing laws to force changes to FBs behavior. As though the silver bullet to "fix" (it's debatable that there's even a problem to "fix") FB lies with activist investors.
    – quid
    May 31, 2019 at 18:59
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    @Barmar the law allows lots of things which are completely irrelevant to whether one entity to own more than 50% of a corporation. "instead of giving investors the illusion of control." Who besides you thinks that minority owners have any form of control except to sell their shares? None except for other Vox readers.
    – RonJohn
    May 31, 2019 at 19:46
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    Taking Zuckerberg out of the equation for the moment, why do you believe that it would automatically be more fair for the johnny-come-lately stockholders to have more control over the company than the founders? The founders and early backers freely negotiated how much money would be exchanged for how much control of the company. Are you really suggesting that the only fair arrangement for a business partnership is equal control for all the partners? May 31, 2019 at 19:47

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The Dark Knight

Well, technically the original quote is "it's not about the money, it's about sending a message", but still.

That's pretty much the long and the short of it - having a vote that is doomed to fail gets coverage and attention. It got you to notice, didn't it?

If you have a big pile of money/are an investment firm, you might potentially care about the fact that investing in a company buys you no meaningful voting influence. The shareholders involved are basically trying to draw attention to this vote, forcing it to come to a vote and forcing the board to demonstrate that in fact only one person's vote really matters anyway.

This is a form of what you might call investor activism - sure the vote doesn't pass, but it still puts pressure and visibility on management. It loudly says, "we are looking at you, and we don't like what we see".

It is indeed about control - who runs things? Some investors, especially activist investors, want more control about the details, and seek to do so through voting, control of boards, etc.

Other investors are perfectly keen to have their choice to be "buy or sell". You vote with your feet - if you lose confidence in the management's decision you just liquidate your positions and/or take a short position.

As to the government involvement, its pretty simple really - political will has not existed and/or been exercised in such a way to make this a law/regulation. The thinking is simply that if you don't like it, don't buy the stock, its not a secret - the filings are public and the vote structure is public record, and the system relies on rational actors maximizing their own self-interest by making informed choices. And if they don't make informed choices, that's easy - a more informed actor gets to eat them (or at least their money). A fool and their money are soon parted, and all that - and the system considers it just more grist for the mill.

This all does still have a political effect, which is that many people are increasingly uneasy about the power of multi-national massively large firms - like Facebook! - and the power that is concentrated into the hands of so few people. Well, to be fair, politicians are mostly upset that the "hands of so few" aren't referring to them for once, but many of the rest of us are just concerned that any such a small set of people (or one person) has so much power.

That is part of what this sort of activism is targeting, though. Investors can try to say, "hey, if you keep doing what we don't like, it sure would be a shame if we start throwing money into lobbying the government to do something about you, wouldn't it?" There's always a bigger fish.

The bottom line: this is part of what you need to decide when you invest your money. If voting rights are important to you or your investment strategy, companies that are organized like Facebook are a poor fit, and you should probably buy something else. If you want to use your money to try to control the direction of a company, you are of course going to need a lot of money, and you will either need to consider activism tasks like is being done here, or focus your money into companies where you votes would actually have some impact.


The flip side of this narrative is that Zuckerberg's massive undiversified exposure to Facebook equity keeps Facebook protected from activist investors seeking to potentially obstruct the mission of the company. Some shareholders like that an investor like Ackman can't buy up enough of the company to install board members and start to start unilaterally shifting the company.

Ultimately, it's a free country, if you don't like that Zuckerberg holds the reins at Facebook, don't buy Facebook.

  • I'm primarily a mutual fund investor, so I don't have much say in whether I own Facebook. But what Facebook does impacts people other than just the shareholders, and I can't even depend on the shareholders to fix it.
    – Barmar
    May 31, 2019 at 0:31
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    You are making the decision to invest that way. We have a judiciary system to uphold laws, it's not the duty of the board or shareholders to do that.
    – quid
    May 31, 2019 at 0:33
  • @Barmar: Take the argument one step further. If you don't like what Facebook does, don't use Facebook. I don't, and I can say that if it's had any impact on me at all, it's been positive :-)
    – jamesqf
    Jun 1, 2019 at 16:43
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    @Barmar: I think it would be difficult to show that Facebook significantly affected US elections, but if it did, how's that different from the effect of the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Fox TV, CNN...?
    – jamesqf
    Jun 1, 2019 at 19:33
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    @Barmar: Some of those "legitimate" news outlets certainly seem to propagate their share of "fake news". (Which usually isn't really fake, it's real stuff that someone wants to discredit by yelling "fake" loudly enough.)
    – jamesqf
    Jun 2, 2019 at 20:07

No worries. There are checks and balances.

Minority stockholders have a number of options (pun not intended) in terms of litigation. I start Go-around Corp. and make 737 landing gear. I sell you a minority stake in Go-around. And after you're onboard, I use the capital to make war on Canada geese. I cover the American east with goose traps, auto-turrets, I'm wasting all the company's money on a wild goose chase.

You get to sue. You get to argue the case that my priorities are twisted, and that I'm not acting in the best interests of the company -- which bottom-lines to the bottom line. The judge goes "Yeah, you're not acting the way a company is supposed to, which is the pure unrelenting pursuit of profit (moderated only by an entirely reasonable mission statement, which is known for a long time and generally consented to by shareholders), and modulo modest deflections toward goals other than profit. But these are modest.

So for instance Target can give 5% of its profits to the community when it doesn't have to - but if it did 90%, the minority stakeholders could sue. 5% is modest, 90% isn't.

There is now a thing called a LLLC, which is a for-profit business with a mission, like a nonprofit. They get to prioritize mission (somewhat) over profit, but they have to say so up-front - so as an investor, your eyes are wide open. I could start the Goose-A-Way Landing Gear Company, and our Bylaws state we spend 90% of our profits eradicating Canada geese. But Boeing doesn't care who builds its landing gear, so the mission would be like an albatross around our neck - we would fall out of formation with competitors, since business profits weren't being reinvested or paid to investors. So LLLCs tend to exist for luxury consumer products where people are pleased to pay a premium for socially conscious products.

Here's an example of a lawsuit by minority owners at OP's example company Facebook: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05/31/shareholders_win_demand_for_facebook_documents_on_cambridge_analytica/

A court in Delaware has backed investors who want to see internal emails and other documents relating to how Facebook handed data on 50 million users to Cambridge Analytica.

The ruling (PDF) said that shareholders provided enough evidence to support a claim that failures by senior management and board members at the social network may have allowed the illegal data slurp to happen.

  • Thank you, this is exactly the kind of mitigation that makes sense. I can imagine a class action lawsuit by the minority shareholders.
    – Barmar
    May 31, 2019 at 21:12
  • I can imagine a class action lawsuit by the minority shareholders. for what?
    – quid
    May 31, 2019 at 22:01
  • @quid In most jurisdictions majority shareholders as well as officers of the company owe a fiduciary duty to all stockholders. If the majority share holder was imposing policies thought to be recklessly wasting the resources of the company they could certainly be sued. For example the majority shareholder could be sued for pushing through a sale of the company below a fair market value. Google "fiduciary duty of majority shareholders" and you'll find a ton of references. May 31, 2019 at 23:39
  • I know about fiduciary duties of the board. I'm asking that person what gripe he has with FB that would warrant a class action from the shareholders.
    – quid
    May 31, 2019 at 23:53

Aside from the other answers which address why this is an important part of free markets, capitalism and a fundamental part of stock ownership, there are other more practical implications.

For one it isn't at all rare for a single investor to take a firm private, effectively buying all the stock and ceasing trading of the company, ending its publicly traded status. If one could not legally own more than half the stock this would be impossible.

Second and most importantly, the way stocks work this would be essentially impossible to enforce. Even if you made law that a single natural person could not own the majority of a company, nothing stops them splitting the shares between three trusts they own, owning 49% and giving a spouse or child 10%, or even giving someone shares and holding them to a contract that they will vote with you. Many companies are also owned by other companies. This whole structure makes such a law infeasible, as tracing the "true" ownership of shares is extremely difficult, essentially impossible in reality.

  • I believe there are already laws and regulations that distinguish "arms length" relationships between investors. E.g. the IRS might treat sales between family members as sham transactions and not allow you to realize capital gains/losses.
    – Barmar
    May 31, 2019 at 19:32
  • @Barmar In the US, there are laws invalidating series of operations which achieve the same goal as a single operation with the sole goal of paying less taxes, however these are tax laws and not about voting control of companies. Tax law in the USA is by and large separate from other laws. Most countries are very lax about controlling how a company may trade its shares and ownership.
    – Vality
    May 31, 2019 at 19:36
  • My point was just to rebut "impossible to enforce". If the IRS can enforce it, why couldn't the SEC enforce analogous regulations?
    – Barmar
    May 31, 2019 at 19:38
  • @Barmar The IRS mostly cares that somebody pays the tax, not who it is. They do not need to find out who really owns a capital asset, merely that they can find someone to demand the taxes from, they dont care if they get taxes from Bob or a trust owned by bob. Additionally there are far more ways to disguise having voting control of a company than there are to disguise capital assets. Finally the SEC are mostly involved in enforcing rules on companies, not individuals, they would have to audit every person in order to find out if they had secret voting rights in a company.
    – Vality
    May 31, 2019 at 19:43
  • I am not saying it is impossible to enforce, but practically impossible, the costs of surveiling every person (presumably in the world as you can vote on shareholder meetings from abroad) to effectively find out about any secret deals to assign voting rights would be prohibitively expensive, even for a major government.
    – Vality
    May 31, 2019 at 19:44

What you seem to be asking for is a rule that says that Zuckerberg can't let other people invest in his venture unless he accepts their direction over the purpose of the venture. This is certainly one way a corporation can exist -- as an entity that advances solely the interests of its stockholders. But this is not the only purpose of a venture.

Say Zuckerberg has some specific thing he wants to accomplish. If other people want to invest in that venture and share in its gains and losses, there is no reason that necessarily should mean that the venture should no longer pursue the goals Zuckerberg has for it.

Another, perfectly valid form of corporation is one where the shareholders contribute capital and participate in the gains and losses but the purpose of the corporation is specifically to pursue the stated aims of its founder.

Of course, those who invest should know precisely what they're getting themselves into. And rules do exist to prevent a founder from basically stealing from the shareholders.

  • If he doesn't want to accept their direction, he could issue non-voting share classes, so they don't have the illusion of control.
    – Barmar
    May 31, 2019 at 19:55
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    But they do not ahve the DELUSION of control - they are smart enough to read the bylaws and count how many votes they get. Remember, he is free to sell his A class shares in the future. Delusion includes someone being deluded - buying into an assert knowing the rules is hardly delusion.
    – TomTom
    May 31, 2019 at 20:01
  • Often the bylaws of the corporation prevent someone with a majority of shares from exercising complete control. For example, votes for members of the board are typically cumulative, so a 51% voting rights holder can only choose 51% of the board. But anyone who buys stock in a company should investigate how it is managed if they are concerned about these issues. Someone who buys just a few shares has no illusion of control. Someone who buys very many surely does the research. Jun 1, 2019 at 0:46

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