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The rent I pay is all inclusive (room, electricity, gas, water, internet, council tax, etc) however a few weeks ago the electricity company installed a pre-payment meter because the landlord hadn't been paying the bills (owed over £3k).

The management wants us to pay the meter and then reduce the amount of rent we pay by that much. The problem I have is that since we're now paying electricity separately, shouldn't we be paying less rent as now the electricity component of the rent is now not being supplied by the landlord/management.

After all, just because I'm not paying for the electricity this month, shouldn't that mean I pay the landlord/management for it as they aren't supplying it anymore if anything I should be paying the person that pays it.

So what's the official word on this?

Details:

  • The management is a company that manages this property on behalf of the landlord.
  • It's a flat-share
  • We have a rental agreement.
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  • Couple of pointers. Prepayment meters means you have to pay more for electricity. If he(she) hasn't been paying the electricity bills, check if he is paying the council tax or not, that might become a problem. Are you in sort of a shared accommodation ? If yes, get other renters too in the mix so you people can deal together with the landlord.
    – DumbCoder
    Commented Oct 15, 2018 at 10:54
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    They've said you should reduce the rent by the amounts you pay for electricity. Are you asking if you can also reduce it further? Commented Oct 15, 2018 at 10:57
  • No, the rental agreement as it stands includes electricity, since we're now paying it separately, why should we then keep paying for the electricity as part of the original agreement on top of what were now paying on the meter.
    – Thermatix
    Commented Oct 15, 2018 at 11:06
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    Your question is really unclear. Are you saying that you want to reduce the rent by some random amount £X that would correspond to whatever component of the rent was previously electricity (which was presumably not therefore charged by usage but a fixed amount) and they want you to reduce the rent by the amount of usage £Y you are actually paying for on the meter? If this is what you are saying then I agree with your premise, however are you sure that £X is more than £Y?
    – Vicky
    Commented Oct 15, 2018 at 11:25
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    @Thermatix but you've already said "The management wants us to pay the meter and then reduce the amount of rent we pay by that much." - so if you follow that you'll still only be paying the original rent, just some of it to the electricity company, and some of it to the management. Commented Oct 15, 2018 at 11:33

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As DJClayworth's answer explains, the offer the rental management has made ought to leave you paying the same total amount for rent+electricity: the idea is that the "all inclusive price" stays the same, and you pay some of that price to the electricity company and the rest to the landlord.

However, you should be aware of the following downsides to the arrangement, which might justify negotiating a further discount from that all inclusive price:

  • Cashflow. Assuming you only deduct the amount spent on electricity in one month from the next month's rent, you are effectively paying up front for your electricity twice, and then only reclaiming some of the cost at the end of the month. So you'll be losing a bit of interest on savings/paying more interest on any debts you have.

  • Credit risk. This follows on from the cashflow point: at the end of your tenancy, there won't be any more rent to pay and your landlord will owe you the final month's electricity costs back. If said landlord hasn't been paying the electricity company, can you be sure he or she will return your money?

  • Inconvenience. Keeping the meter topped up, keeping track of how much you spend, etc, will be a real nuisance. Much less convenient than the all-inclusive deal you originally signed.

I'd also make sure that your deposit is properly protected under a deposit scheme, as is required by law.

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  • "Keeping coins etc to feed the meter" I've never heard of electricity meters where you actually put coins in the meter itself - is that actually a thing somewhere in the world ? Commented Oct 16, 2018 at 15:35
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    @JonasCz Actually I'm probably well behind the times - looks like they work by card or online nowadays. They definitely used to exist in the UK! Commented Oct 16, 2018 at 18:01
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You have misunderstood the issue.

since we're now paying electricity separately, shouldn't we be paying less rent as now the electricity component of the rent is now not being supplied by the landlord/management.

You are paying less rent. The landlord told you to pay the meter, and then reduce the rent you pay by that much. So if you put fifty pounds into the meter, you reduce your rent by fifty pounds. Less rent, just like you said.

More to the point, this arrangement means you total you pay (in rent and electricity) is exactly the same as it was before, which is also completely fair and legal.

(Incidentally, since electricity usually costs more when a prepayment meter is installed, your landlord is losing money on this - which is entirely as it should be, since it's his fault, but is a good indication that he is not ripping you off.)

There are other issues with this, including how your landlord came to be so far behind in the electricity bill that a pre-payment meter had to be installed (something that usually only happens in extreme circumstances). But the total you pay is not one of the problems.

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    Importantly, you are doing this on the advice of the rental management, so the landlord cannot claim you should have paid the full rent (and sat in the cold, or paid electricity on top).
    – gnasher729
    Commented Oct 15, 2018 at 14:08
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    I don't think the electricity was unmetered before (which by law can only be applied to predictable loads like street lighting and traffic lights), but rather they swapped a conventional post-payment meter to a pre-payment one.
    – user71659
    Commented Oct 16, 2018 at 19:16

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