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I'm 21 years old I joined college for some years and dropped out due to family problems. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to continue due to pressure from college and family although I worked really hard to obtain good marks and be in a good shape. It's really circumstantial but I also realized that the college I went to was horrible. I wasn't able to pay for it financially so I had a scholarship which funded the expenses, it was expensive. I'm just glad that I'm debt free.

My major was in computer science and I started programming at the age of 17 so I had a good experience and background on that field. However, I never programmed for money, I only programmed for fun, to keep myself busy and to free my mind from thinking about the problems that I face.

So I'm aiming to be free and independent and I have two things in my mind, I can only choose one:

A) Find a regular job and save money to move out of my parents' home

The disadvantage to this is that, I'll worry about different things, the bills and my living costs and you name it. But that's part of being independent which is responsibility, however I'll struggle to make end-needs because I'll be most likely receiving a minimum wage, I think that's after a huge effort to find a job. Here the system is really annoying. Employers can very easily hire foreign work-force for very cheap; for example as a citizen if I work $10 an hour, they can get someone from outside to work for $5 per hour, half the amount and this is a very big gap. Plus, those foreign workers won't really complain, they don't mind to live under very very poor circumstances. That's unethical of the employers here.

And once I had enough money, I may consider starting my own business whether in software or something else is circumstantial.

B) Start a software project without moving out

The problem to this approach would be time. It really takes time for a software project to take off and become recognized. Also, there's no guarantee that the project will succeed. In addition to that, I won't be moving out. I'm desperate to be independent and free from their control. After all all the tolerance that I have is just for the simple fact that I live in their home.

I cannot really work and at the same time develop software on my free time. Given the fact that I suck at doing two things at the same time I know myself I won't be able to have commitment to software development once I find a full-time job. I don't work for the current time I just make out of selling small goodies here and there.

Despite my failures in the past, I was not the main person that's responsible for those failures. I believe that I worked and gave everything I could to achieve at least a stable life, but those around me got the idea that so long as I live with my family things will only get worse. Therefore, it's good that I realized now that I should act. Now in terms in arranging my finance, I have many questions:

1) Should I quit regular programming for a normal job because I never monetized programming so I can move out of my parents' home?

2) Should I monetize programming and gamble with the future?

3) Would it be wise to essentially quit programming for the sake of a minimum wage job?

I might consider online degree which is futuristic but I'm not into it for now.

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    Country please.
    – Pete B.
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 13:23
  • Your choices are pretty binary. If you are good at programming, you should be able to find a job paying you well. The market is super hot right now although you will make less and have to look harder for a non-degree'd person.
    – Pete B.
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 13:25
  • @Grade'Eh'Bacon Yes I'm disconnected from society because this society is wrong. Regarding the employment thing, it's real and in fact is really common that you wouldn't believe it, everyone knows this fact here, in fact more than 80% of the workforce is foreign according to official statistics, clear indication of my honesty. Plus, if you go anywhere you gonna find a foreigner working, anywhere. I wouldn't say I'm totally disconnected from reality as much as I'm devastated by knowing the reality itself. I couldn't explain the whole idea because this would be off topic to this site.
    – direprobs
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 14:54
  • @Grade'Eh'Bacon I'm not hostile to multiculturalism. I'm totally fine with that, but I can't really accept to be the downtrodden. The multiculturalism that I see here is not the real one that we should see. It's all about financial benefits and those guys come here admittedly saying only for a job. The nature of this conservative society doesn't allow the integration of other people into it that come from different perspectives. Because of that, the foreign worker that comes here is an economic migrant. Often they live outside the community where citizens live. There's much more to that.
    – direprobs
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 15:12
  • @Grade'Eh'Bacon In fact, you raised a very valid point when you said "socially isolated.". This point is precisely what makes me wondering if that's the main case. In any case however, I do have a valid point to be isolated from the rest of the herd. For that I always believed in self-integrity and freedom of choice, I'll remain isolated if the social structure doesn't change. I expect it not to change, the question that I've not asked whether if I should fix on the financial side more than the social side. I strongly believe I'm unable due to the fact that I disagree with society.
    – direprobs
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 15:17

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This might sound harsh, but the first thing I would suggest is to stop making excuses.

I wasn't able to continue due to pressure from college and family

The college I went to was horrible.

Employers can very easily hire foreign work-force for very cheap; for example as a citizen if I work $10 an hour, they can get someone from outside to work for $5 per hour

There's no guarantee that the project will succeed.

I cannot really work and at the same time develop software on my free time.

Despite my failures in the past, I was not the main person that's responsible for those failures.

Even if all of this is true, it's not helping you move forward and it seems to be getting in the way of creating a good action plan and motivating yourself to succeed. If you believe (based on past experiences) that you are doomed to fail, then you are indeed doomed to fail.

You need to take a step back and re-evaluate your current circumstances and what you can do to reach your goals. You have a couple of things working in your favor here.

  1. It's great that you are debt free. That already puts you ahead of a lot of your peers.

  2. You have the option of living with your parents. Presumably for no rent, or at least much lower rent than you would have to pay if you move out. This is worth literally thousands of $/£/€ for every year you stay.

Now, onto your questions:

1) Should I quit regular programming for a normal job because I never monetized programming so I can move out of my parents' home?

Are you being paid for this "regular programming"? If so, are you being paid more than minimum wage? If not, it's perfectly acceptable to consider alternative ways to spend your time and generate income. However, this doesn't have to be at the expense of living with your parents. Have you thought about getting a new or second job while still living with them?

If you absolutely must move out of your parent's home, consider renting a room in a house with other people to keep the rent costs to a minimum. That way, even if your main job is low paying, you should be able to put aside some money each month for future endeavors.

2) Should I monetize programming and gamble with the future?

What does this mean? Are you thinking you'll write a mobile app and sell thousands of copies for 99¢ each? That would indeed be a big gamble, but maybe that's not what you meant, so you'll need to clarify.

3) Would it be wise to essentially quit programming for the sake of a minimum wage job?

I'm not sure how this is different from question 1. So I'll reiterate what I said there - moving out is going to be expensive. You can still do it, but you're asking on a Personal Finance site where the focus is usually how to minimize living costs and maximize income. Without knowing more about where you live (employment opportunities, cost of living) the default recommendation is usually to save money by staying in your parents house.

TLDR:

Don't focus on anyone else. They are not preventing you from getting the job you want. Look at your own skills and qualifications (not just programming, consider all of your abilities). What are you good at? Who might need those skills? What is the cost of reaching those people (commute time, moving nearer)? What is the reward?

If the reward exceeds the cost, start approaching those people. Show them what you can do.

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  • I wish if I could be the one that's responsible for the disaster that I live in. I'm a wonk. Anyway, I'm not paying much attention to the enemies, and I'll be making no excuses and those points meant not be excuses. I mean by regular programming is that, I make zero out of that, zippo. I just set here and enjoy programming for my own pleasure, I don't share code at all. I meant by gambling with future that I may not make a successful project to commercialize, something worth considering.
    – direprobs
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 15:05
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    Ok, well the general mantra on this site is that you should only gamble what you can afford to lose. In your situation the risk seems to be more of a potential loss of time than a loss of money, but it's still a gamble. Think of the worst case scenario - if n years from now, you are no richer/poorer, will you still feel comfortable or will you feel like the experience gained wasn't worth the time invested? If there is the potential that you'd be in debt, consider the same question for that scenario too.
    – CactusCake
    Commented Oct 5, 2017 at 15:31

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