IRA Deduction Worksheet Question 6 Married filing Jointly

I'm trying to understand the questions in this vectorized case of Married filing jointly for the IRA Deduction worksheet.

In my case I work and contribute to a 401k, my wife does not so for Question 1 I answer `Yes` and `No` respectively.

Question 2 is just a copy from the applicable numbers provided: `118`,`194`

For the sake of constructing an example where the condition to follow in Line 6 is different for both spouses I filled in line 3 with the average of the two figures `(118+194)/2=156`, which is distributed identically for line 5.

Come Line 6 it asks if the amount on `Line 5 > Line 2`, which for me would be `No`, for my wife `Yes`.

It then says `No. STOP None of your IRA contributions are deductible`. What exactly does this mean in the context of filing jointly? Is it a question applicable to Husband and Wife individually or together, meaning if either one has `No` then the joint filing cannot take the deduction, or is it instead speaking to the fact that we may both individually have IRA accounts and contributing to each but only one of the spouses in this context can claim the deduction while the other cannot?

What if the IRA is a joint account? Does the account with deductible contribution have to be under the person's name who did not have a 401k? In other words it would not be sufficient for me to have the account in my name with my wife as 100% beneficiary, the account would have to be in her name end of story.

• "I filled in line 3 with the average of the two figures (118+194)/2=156" No. You must put on Line 3 the exact number from line 22 (total income) of your joint tax return. Mar 16, 2017 at 18:23
• Sorry I should have made clear that this is for the sake of example to yield a figure that was above the value column a but below the value for column b. Mar 16, 2017 at 18:41

You do not qualify to deduct IRA contributions because you are married, filing jointly and you make more than 118k. Source: IRS.

This does not mean you cannot or should not contribute, it just means that you do not decrease your tax bill when you contribute. Roth IRAs still have tax benefits on the distribution end.

• I'd say that the table you link to is a commentary on column a. of the worksheet, but it's the column b. that's a bit more mysterious with its introduction of the higher limit of \$194,000. All the questions apply to the individual, and for this particular table applies to the spouse who works and is covered by a retirement plan. I'd say it applies to me but not my wife. Mar 16, 2017 at 18:43
• Might be good to clarify that you really should contribute to a Roth IRA instead of a non-deductible Traditional IRA if at all possible. As written it sounds like one could go either way. Mar 17, 2017 at 0:38

Well, my not knowing that by definition an IRA cannot be a joint account has led me to my confusion in interpreting the above question. So now I can rightly grasp that this worksheet in the context of married filing jointly addresses these questions to both spouses individually. Interesting stuff.

An individual retirement account (IRA) must be established and maintained on an individual basis. It cannot be held jointly.