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Based on what I understand, traditionally we are supposed to put 70% money in stocks and 30% money in bonds (based on individual age, I am 33 right now).

I have been experimenting on P2P lending and robo investing and I think there is a space for both of them within our financial plan. Here is my break down

20% p2p - ( I have been getting 8-9% return a year from Lending Club) 20% Bonds (min return) 20% RoboInvesting (wealthfront - about 5% return in 6 month) 40% stocks based on personal research in good companies for long term

Does the 20% in p2p and 20% in robo investment seems ok to you ?

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    What kind of portfolio, e.g. retirement fund, or money you'll need to access sooner (and if so, when?) Are you investing in a tax-advantaged account, or not? More detail. – Chris W. Rea May 4 '15 at 20:43
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    This question is very subjective! Like all investments, allocate as much as your portfolio that you want while still maintaining an acceptable level of risk. Keep in mind that P2P loans are basically high yield credit. There is no right answer to this – von Mises May 4 '15 at 21:06
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    @Chris its after tax account so money can be accessible when needed – Ved May 4 '15 at 21:54
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    Even if we accept the premise that there's an ideal investment strategy that can be generally applied, which @vonMises rightly contests, it would likely be difficult to assign P2P lending as a whole to a single investment category within such a strategy. A cursory search reveals widely varying default rates between 2% and 36%, largely correlated with the risk assessment of the peer but still varying by platform. – Lilienthal May 5 '15 at 10:47
  • I wouldn't put p2p and robo-investment together - robo-investing is just a convenient way to invest in stocks and bonds at your chosen ratio, after all. I would split "bonds" into "safe bonds" and "risky/junk bonds". You can decide how much risk you want to take on in bonds... then I'd call LendingClub investing equivalent to junk bonds (you're just in investing in personal junk bonds, instead of corporate/muni junk bonds.) – neminem Jun 20 '16 at 18:00
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It's complicated. Really, there's no solid answer for your question. Everybody's risk tolerance and time horizon is going to be different. Those who can take on more risk can take on lower-grade C-G loans at Lending Club. Those with less risk tolerance should emphasize As and Bs.

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    Or skip this entirely. It's probably better thought of as charitable, expecting to lose money, rather than as any kind of investment. – keshlam Aug 26 '16 at 21:25
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P2P lending is basically a debt product with (much) higher risk, I doubt that there's any regulation or government backing in it. The money lent to borrowers are not collateralized or securitized.

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Having 20% of your portfolio in P2P lending sounds really aggressive to me. When we have another recession, a lot of those loans are going to be bad and having a big chunk of 20% of your portfolio vanish could sting pretty good. I wouldn't go into it with more than the sum you are willing to lose and not be too upset.

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I am currently running 12%. This is including IRA, 401k, HSA, and tax accounts. My LC is not a tax sheltered.The share used to be around 25% but i have been very aggressively putting away alot more into 401k/HSA.

My current NAT returns on LC are 14.3%, but not a single loan has seasoned, i am nearing my first full year, and i have had 3 defaults in 150~ loans. My % across grades: A-0 B-6 C-30 D-31 E-20 F-12 G-1 Also to note, i use a very filter and only pick the "best" notes based on my own personally back testing.

My 5 year average for stocks and such is around 11%, and YTD is 14%. Which is matching my LC rate. I am not sure which one will hurt more during the next bear markets, LC, or long term investments. Only time will tell.

I suppose I plan on keeping my LC between 10-15% of my total investments. I will see how it goes as time goes on and my account gets more seasoned.

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Depends on the level of risk in the specific p2p provider. I've looked at lendinvest which secures loans against property. You can select loans based on loan-to-value ratio etc. Even if a recession happens, if the LTV is around 50% it would have to be a pretty awful recession for you to lose any money once they recover, although there will be a delay while you wait for the recovery to happen. I would thus consider this lower risk than other p2p options, so I'd be willing to put more money into it.

At the end of the day as others have said there's no objective answer. This is just one factor to consider which I don't think has been pointed out yet on this discussion

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