I want to hold Vanguard Total International Stock Index Fund in a Roth IRA and a taxable Vanguard account. Together they would total over $10k, but apart they would individually be under $10k. Both accounts are at Vanguard. I understand that Vanguard reviews your accounts annually and upgrades/downgrades to/from admiral shares depending on the amount held in a fund. Do they look at the total amount held by you as an individual, or do they look only at the amount held in each account?
It's actually not an annual review. You'll typically get some sort of alert (either an email or some special badge when you're on the website) as soon as an account balance crosses the threshold to qualify for Admiral Shares. Then you have to elect to make the transformation yourself.– dg99Mar 28, 2014 at 22:10
Yes, each of Vanguard's mutual funds looks only at its own shares when deciding to upgrade/downgrade the shares to/from Admiral status. To the best of my knowledge, if you hold a fund in an IRA as well as a separate investment, the shares are not totaled in deciding whether or not the shares are accorded Admiral shares status; each account is considered separately. Also, for many funds, the minimum investment value is not $10K but is much larger (used to be $100K a long time ago, but recently the rules have been relaxed somewhat).
Correct, the balances are not totaled across accounts. As for thresholds/minima, most of the Index Funds can still be converted to Admiral at $10K, while most of the Managed Funds require $50K (if they even have Admiral versions). Yet another reason to avoid Managed Funds! The only $100K minima at Vanguard I can think of offhand are for the Sector Funds. I don't remember whether Sector Funds have Admiral versions ...– dg99Mar 28, 2014 at 22:13
Good info, thanks! A bit disappointing but at the end of the day we're probably only taking about a few bucks in fees until I reach the minimums.– Mike EMar 30, 2014 at 0:24