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Would like to discuss my financial condition here so that you guys can share your thoughts. TLDR :). There are some details related to family as well, which I think is important while taking financial decisions.

In 2016 I have purchased a small piece of land (31*40 ----> 138 square yards - corner plot) in a gated community in Medchal - Hyderabad for 11,00,000 INR. Now its value has more than doubled due to the fact that it is closer to National Highway, HMDA authority approved property. But the problem is no one has constructed any house there till now. Almost 167 acres of empty land and everyone waiting for others to start house construction, so that they can also start or sell at higher value. This property was bought with the help of my father but registered in my name.

I wanted to give my parents a happy life in their old age and piece of mind by letting them stay in an own house. In 2017 I got married and in 2018, I took a decision to buy an 2 BHK apartment in Hyderabad city itself where Metro rail is closer and a gated community. As my father, mother, wife, kid and myself all were staying together and my father used to give his monthly pension of 40,000 INR to me to maintain the family and I used to get 90,000 INR (Total 130,000 INR per month family income), I have purchased a property for 58,00,000 INR with a home loan of 43,00,000 (15 years). My wife and her parents helped me at that time - we wanted not to take money from them as it was a new relationship. But, still my wife insisted me to take money that they are offering as taking personal loan and home loan is not advisable. My savings were zero till then.

The only reason why I wanted to take a big loan and purchase a first house is that my father was 63 years then and he was getting government pension. I work for an IT company but in IT companies job security is a big problem. So with the hope that we as a family stay together can save rent, pay home loan EMI and if possible with the help of my fathers pension can prepay home loan as quickly as possible. In case of my job loss, my father's pension can be used to run family and some LIC worth 300,000 INR can be used as emergency fund or for paying 6 months EMI. That was my plan. This house is registered on both my wife and my name - only I pay home loan.

All this went well for 3 years. Now I don't have any other loans except home loan. Purchased a car worth 11, 75, 000 INR and have only home loan 39,00,000 (14 years EMI 38,500 INR, with 13,50,000 INR bank balance in home loan over draft account). The house market value is around approximately 72,00,000 now.

But, during COVID lockdown period and even earlier also - due to the conflicts (generation gap, culture difference, different financial background etc.) with my parents, my wife started behaving rudely with my parents - if not directly but indirectly. So I started losing peace at home. I was not able to control the situation at home. Now, parents are not staying with me and have moved to another city to look after my ill sister. Even if my sister's health were in good condition, my parents would have been shifted to next house due to lack of peace of mind amongst family members.

So, given the above conditions, my plans to close home loan in a short period of time is getting difficult. And wife is pregnant now, so it will be really difficult to pre close the home loan as planned earlier. Even if I close the home loan, it will be nearly impossible to say all 6 of us (including my parents) in that house.

Another fact is that if the house cost exceeds INR 70,00,000 (cost till date is 64,00,000 INR inclusive of home loan interest), my yield on the property would be low (Rental value of INR 210,000 per year) and being an apartment its value will depreciate irrespective of its (prime) locality and due to growing huge number of apartments in near by areas.

Also my relationship with my wife has worsened in the very recent past and her parents started blaming me that I have taken money forcefully, which is completely wrong. If required, I want to give back the 21,00,000 (house purchase time 15,00,000 INR and recently 6,00,000 INR) INR that they had given me in these total 3 years, which I never asked/insisted for. My only trust was that my father will support me during rainy days and I can overcome financial burden though I have taken heavy loan.

Update 1:

I got promoted in Job last week with a salary hike of 21.5 % but currently taking psychiatric medication and suffering with lack of peace of mind at home, troubled future financial plans that were based on certain assumptions.

Update 2:

Except the house and vacant land I don't have any other investments also. So, I am worried about retirement as well. My age is 35 and I think this is the right time that I need to take proper steps.

If you people were in my shoes, how would you have dealt with this situation? What best practices could help me reach my goals?

My Goals

  1. A loan free mind helps me concentrate on my children, family and stressful IT Job well.
  2. A loan free house if possible two (one for parents and another for myself)
  3. Retirement plan

Please share your thoughts and excuse me for the lengthy question & mistakes if any.

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    Lots of interpersonal drama is mixed in. In fact, it seems mostly about interpersonal relationships. – RonJohn Jan 21 at 15:27
  • This isn't really a specific answerable question. This site isn't really intended for discussion. I think it may be out of scope for this site. – JohnFx Jan 21 at 18:20
  • Is the following an accurate summary? 2 properties: one vacant land (no loan, >11 lakh profit if sold now), one apartment as main residence (33 lakh bank loan + 21 lakh loan from in-laws, property worth 72 lakh now, i.e. 18 lakh equity). Or put another way: in addition to your residence that has positive equity, you have vacant land worth 22 lakh, as well as a 21 lakh loan you want to repay. // What is the specific financial issue you are asking this community for information on? (Note that we can’t provide financial advice on this forum.) – Lawrence Jan 21 at 23:44
  • @Lawrence Actually bank loan is 39 lakh and market value may go below upto 70 lakh also based on buyer. I have updated what I am looking for in the question. – phoenix Jan 22 at 6:26
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IMHO your problem centers around the entanglement of three families. You should have your own place where you live with your wife and future child(ren). Your parents should have their own place, and your wife's parents should as well.

Similarly there should be no entanglement of money. Don't take money from your or her parents, and don't provide them with money. You are not financially secure yourself, so until that happens use your income to support your wife and child.

While I agree that you did not forcibly take money from your in-laws, I would offer to return some money to them to smooth the relationship. Would they be happy if you returned 1/3 of the money they gave you? Probably.

Sell the vacant land. This will give you cash to pay back your in-laws and either find a new place for yourselves or your parents. While I think paying off a mortgage is a worthy goal, it is not worth living with parents while married. Besides you lack cash to build a house so the land is not useful to you.

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    The problem with your answer is that it ignores societal reality in Asia (which was quite common in the US 100 years ago). – RonJohn Jan 21 at 15:26
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    Not that Pete needs anyone to defend him - "If you people were in my shoes, how would you have dealt with this situation?" is what the OP asked. The truth is, as you note, cultures are very different, and wearing those shoes takes quite a leap. It's also better suited for IPS, which I don't visit, so not quite sure how it will be handled there. – JTP - Apologise to Monica Jan 22 at 13:20
  • @JTP-ApologisetoMonica I have tried to post the same in IPS but it was closed. So, I had to delete the question. I have updated my question and mostly I think it is related to finance only. – phoenix Jan 22 at 13:53
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    IPS.SE is a different stack, with its own approach and personality. I found it offensive enough to remove my account there, and avoid it completely. I'm also careful before sending a question their way. Members here should help you focus on the PF aspect of the question, and offer edits toward that goal. – JTP - Apologise to Monica Jan 22 at 20:56
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"If you people were in my shoes, how would you have dealt with this situation? I"

  1. I stick to my core beliefs. If my core belief is that I don't take money from relatives then I would not, regardless of how much my wife begs/cries/acts. By sticking to your core belief you then are only responsible for your choices. If you do what you believe is wrong based on someone else's advice you're still responsible for the outcome so there's no upside to doing what others want if you don't agree with it.
  2. I try to be fair. As far as your wife mistreating your parents, I would want to know if she is acting that way based on something they did that they shouldn't have done & would she treat her own parents the same way if they had done the same things. If the answer is "yes" then I would back her 1000%. If the answer is "no", I would tell her she's wrong and not back her. That said I also believe in team work. A husband & wife are a team. You cannot betray each other but you also shouldn't support bad behavior so she puts you in a very difficult position if she's doing something unjustified. You need to convince her not to be unjust (if that's the situation) but avoid bad mouthing her to your family.
  3. I would ask her parents what they think the best resolution to the financial issue is. It sounds like they would say they want their money back. In that case I would give it to them. If they said not to worry about it then I would not make it a priority at this time. I would make my financial goals the priority and worry about it later.

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