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My company allows me to purchase stock at 90% of the closing fair market value. My salary is in the 90k-100k range. I am allowed to put in anywhere from 1-15% of my paycheck in company stock up to a max of 25,000$. I have just begun employment at this company and my age is in the lower 20s. Since I just started out and I am single with no dependents (for at least 2 more years), it seems like I have more money on hand than I will have in the future. What approximate percentage of pay should I invest?

EDIT: I am referring to ESPP, the company is in the US, is publicly traded and the stock is known for being quite stable.

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Caution: The Worst Case Scenario is that when the company does poorly you are not only fired or face a pay cut, but the stock has lost money and yet you must sell to pay your bills... – Paul Sep 18 '12 at 22:20
I think the worst case scenario also involves a company bankruptcy where you lose the cash you had been setting aside to buy stock on account of the statement in the prospectus saying that they can use that cash for business purposes even before they give you the stock (combined with your status as an unsecured creditor). – fennec Sep 18 '12 at 23:01
Country you are in? Rules mat differ from one to another. – JoeTaxpayer Sep 19 '12 at 1:54

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You're talking about ESPP? For ESPP it makes sense to utilize the most the company allows, i.e.: in your case - 15% of the paycheck (if you can afford deferring that much, I assume you can). When the stocks are purchased, I would sell them immediately, not hold. This way you have ~10% premium as your income (pretty much guaranteed, unless the stock falls significantly on the very same day), and almost no exposure. This sums up to be a nice 1.5% yearly guaranteed bonus, on top of any other compensation.

As to keeping the stocks, this depends on how much you believe in your company and expect the stocks to appreciate. Being employed and dependent on the company with your salary, I'd avoid investing in your company, as you're invested in it deeply as it is.

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+1, Agreed, not to accumulate shares. – JoeTaxpayer Sep 18 '12 at 18:47
If you're selling them immediately there shouldn't be any affordability problem since you'll be getting the resale money back almost immediately (give or take a day or three to xfer funds from your brokerage account). Being able to afford it or not seems like it should only be a concern if you're required to hold the shares for a non-trivial amount of time first. – Dan Neely Sep 18 '12 at 20:33
@Dan, well, that unless you live from paycheck to paycheck. Then putting 15% aside for half a year (or whatever the ESPP period is there) may be problematic. – littleadv Sep 18 '12 at 20:34
An 11% return on an average 3 month holding period (for the twice yearly buy) is pretty compelling. – JoeTaxpayer Sep 18 '12 at 22:23
Doesn't selling them immediately have tax ramifications versus holding them? I believe that the discounted amount is taxable if you sell within two years. – Kevin Sep 21 '12 at 14:13
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I would not hold any company stock for the company that provides your income. This is a too many eggs in one basket kind of problem.

With a discounted stock purchase plan, I would buy the shares at a 10% discount and immediately resell for a profit. If the company prevents you from immediately reselling, I don't know if I would invest.

The risk is too great that you'll see your job lost and your 401k/investments emptied due to a single cause.

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One such strategy I have heard for those who have this opportunity is to purchase the maximum allowed. When the window to sell opens, sell all of your shares and repurchase the most you can with the amount you gained (or keep an equivalent to avoid another transaction fee). This allows you to buy at a discount, and spread out the risk by investing elsewhere. This way you are really only exposing yourself to lose money which you wouldn't have had access to without the stock discount.

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Does your company offer a 401k? or similar pre-tax retirement plans?

Is your company a publicly traded company?

These questions are important, basically the key to any of your investments should be diversification. This means buying more than one kind of investment, amongst stock(s), bonds, real estate or more.

The answer to "How Much" of your salary should go to company stock, is subjective. I personally would contribute the max toward a retirement plan or even post-tax savings, which would be invested in a variety of public companies.

Hope that helps.

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What most respondents are forgetting, is when a company allows its employees to purchase its shares at a discount with their salary, the employee is usually required to hold the stock for a number of years before they can sell them.

The reason the company is allowing or promoting its employees to purchase its shares at a discount is to give the employees a sense of ownership of the company. Being a part owner in the company, the employee will want the company to succeed and will tend to be more productive.

If employees were allowed to purchase the shares at a discount and sell them straight away, it would defeat this purpose.

Your best option to decide whether or not to buy the shares is to work out if the investment is a good one as per any other investment you would undertake, i.e. determine how the company is currently performing and what its future prospects are likely to be. Regarding what percentage of pay to purchase the shares with, if you do decide to buy them, you need to work that out based on your current and future budgetary needs and your savings plan for the future.

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Your first sentence is not true. There's no holding requirements for ESPP, usually. You're confusing with RSU, a totally different animal. – littleadv Sep 19 '12 at 0:22
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Victor may be confusing the favorable tax treatment that comes after two year of the start of the purchase period. Else, the discount is ordinary income (which I'll take.) – JoeTaxpayer Sep 19 '12 at 0:50
@littleadv, I don't know what ESPP or RSU are and they are not mentioned in the original question. I am going on what the case is in Australia. Why would a company let its employees buy shares at a 10% discount when they can just resell them on market and make a profit? Firstly it would be diluting its shares and causing its share price to fall as all its employees rush to sell what they bought for 10% below market price. Now that doesn't make sense!!! – Victor Sep 19 '12 at 1:12
@JoeTaxpayer, again these are rules for the US, and since there is no country tab in the question, I have answered from my experience and understanding in Australia. As i have also mentioned it makes no business sense for a company to offer its employees discount shares if they can just resell them straight away! – Victor Sep 19 '12 at 1:15
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Thus my desire for user profiles to include country as mandatory, not optional. – JoeTaxpayer Sep 19 '12 at 1:36
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  • I agree with the other comments that you should not buy/hold your company stock even if given at a discount. If equity is provided as part of the compensation package (Options/Restrictive Stock Units RSU)then this rule does not apply.

  • As a matter of diversification, you should not have majority equity stake of other companies in the same sector (e.g. technology) as your employer. Asset allocation and diversification if done in the right way, takes care of the returns.

  • Buying and selling on the same day is generally not allowed for ESPP.

  • Taxation headaches.

This is from personal experience (Cisco Systems). I had options issued in Sept 2008 at 18$ which vested regularly. I exited at various points - 19$,20$,21$,23$ My friend held on to all of it hoping for 30$ is stuck. Options expire if you leave your employment. ESPP shares though remain.

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"Buying and selling on the same day is generally not allowed for ESPP" - since when??? – littleadv Sep 25 '12 at 0:17

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